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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:22 pm
Post subject: Losing with AA

Why do I end up always losing with poket aces. Aren't they the best cards ? should you play carefully even if you have AA ??
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:13 am
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That's unlucky. AA is the best starting hand but you have to remember that it is just a pair. If you play a ten handed game and play this hand slowly (with many people making the flop) then you may well be beaten. Also, most players cannot get away from AA as they are reluctant to fold it. If say KK6 comes up on the flop and there are more than a couple of callers to the flop then it is almost certainly a fold. Most can't fold it and end up losing.

You are still unlucky to lose as you had the best starting hand. In poker there are few certainties.

Good luck.
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:28 pm
Post subject: aces

aces i believe are the hardest hand to play, the best way i believe is to make a sizeable raise b4 the flop about quarter of your chips (in torney) or about 10 times the big blind in cash games then if you get a call to go all in on the flop but beware a flop with more than one high card i.e. kq kj q10 so on as if someone has called you the likelyhood is they have got two high cards or a large pair, also 2 suited cards might make them wanna gamble on a flush draw which can be good if they dont pull it but deadly when they do. if a high pr like ks or queens come best to do a testing bet say about 2 or 3 times the big blind if they go all in or re raise chances are they,ve hit and you have to decide to call or fold, remember there is always a chance they have a lower pr and are also testin you to see if you got it.
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:44 am
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I usually try and build a big pot preflop, maybe bet 3-4 times the big blind. In the loose games i usually play this means that lots of people calls. If then the flop dont look to coordinated i make a large raise, i somebody calls thats fine, it usually means more money for me. However, if AA is played to passiviely and 3-4 people sees the river, one is not seldom beaten by hands like straights or two pair. I suppose that i tight games AA should be slowplayed more often.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:00 pm
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if you choose slow play with AA mostly you will lose because somebody else is making a straight or a flush or a two pairs. I lived this so much that now I am directly going all in when have an AA. Only in this way can I eliminate players who may make a better hand.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:47 pm
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Agree with pitico. I now always go all in with AA. If noone calls fine I steal blinds and if 1 or 2 call I take my chances. Sometimes I lose but not as often as I used to when I slow played them.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:06 pm
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Sorry guys but I have to disagree with you on the strategy. It really depends on what your table position is and the types of player you are opposing, so it's hard to generalise.

For example if you are in early position, say first to act, then to go allin with say $100 would cause everyone to fold and you'd make a couple of bucks from the blinds. That's not a good use of the hand.

Best play early on is to call the blinds, in middle position or late position you should raise heavily enough to cause most players to drop out leaving you (hopefully) with 1 or 2 opponents. If the entire table calls the blinds then you will often be in trouble. Those that call expensive bets tend to have pairs in the hole or high cards such as AK or AQ. You will be unlucky to lose against dominated hands such as these.
riverruss
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:32 pm
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OK guys a poser for you.
In what situation would it be correct to fold AA preflop.
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:56 pm
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Never, there is no situation you'd fold this pre-flop.
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:58 pm
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I would say in a situation like this is the only situation it would be correct to fold AA preflop.

You are in a tourney of say 3000. The first 50 qualify for wsop sattelite. There are 51 people left. And you are small blind. You have just enough money to call the big blind.

I would fold AA and wait for the blinds to go around again and hope for 1 more person to go out in the meantime.

Very Happy
Gu1nne55
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:52 pm
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Well, I think the problem is that many players think they can't lose with AA. But it's the same here like with any other hand: Be aware of the board, if it looks dangerous, don't hesitate to fold. Don't go on paying and paying just because you have pocket rockets.
riverruss
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:46 am
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Onemore is partially correct.
For example look at the situation below.
Sat to WSOP 5 left 4 get seats.
Blinds just increased to 4K/8K
BB You $150,000
seat 1 $25,000
seat 2 $120,000
seat 3 $14,000
SB seat 4 $90,000

seat 1 pushes ai,SB raises to $90,000 you have AA.
with 2 small stacks & the chance of losing $90,000 chips with just one player to bust to get your seat,playing AA in this position would be plain stupid because your almost certain to be able to fold into the seat without risking your stack.
benben97
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:36 am
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Most people tend to overplay aces, they believe that they are the best in any situation.

-D
Gumkey
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:41 am
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Yes AA it's only pair. Very dangerous pocket. It's hard fold with this cards:)
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:19 pm
Post subject: Aces in the hole

I seem to do best with pocket aces if I INITIATE A MODERATE RAISE, 3 times the big blind...this prevents me from sacrificing my entire stack by not going all in and fast playing the aces... NOT ALL IN PREFLOP, it always blows out some of the players.... it seems to work best for me, because I can see the power of my aces after the flop, and that is a better guide to me, to see my aces plus the 3 card flop...i have ave a better idea then how to bet them...
Still the above comments are true too...position is critical, and the number of callers are a factor to me too.

JackPotHead
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