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safesoundz
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:08 am
Post subject: What would you do differently

My hole cards are 10C,KH

BLINDS
prjed posts blind ($0.25), safesoundz posts blind ($0.50), Carl428 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
cwspill calls $0.50, Wulms folds, Kulis folds, panomies calls $0.50, Chip_Merlin calls $0.50, Carl428 checks, TREMULUS calls $0.50, prjed calls $0.25, safesoundz checks.

FLOP [board cards 9D,10H,3C ]
prjed checks, safesoundz bets $0.50, cwspill calls $0.50, panomies folds, Chip_Merlin folds, Carl428 folds, TREMULUS calls $0.50, prjed folds.

TURN [board cards 9D,10H,3C,KS ]
safesoundz bets $1, cwspill calls $1, TREMULUS calls $1.

RIVER [board cards 9D,10H,3C,KS,9S ]
safesoundz bets $1, cwspill calls $1, TREMULUS bets $2, safesoundz calls $1, cwspill calls $1.

Now what would you have done differently. I knew once he raised me at the river, i was beat, but called anyhow. Was thinking of re-raising as i put him on the 9 and maybe he thought i had the straight. Would you re-raise?
The guy had Q9.

Looking back i should have bet a more than 0.50 after the flop.
onemore
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:16 pm
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after the turn i would have raised more then $1 i think. You were very unlucky at river.
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:39 pm
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Safesound,

Thanks for the question which provides an excellent lesson in betting. Obviously it's easy for anyone to pontificate after the event with hindsight, but I think what you're play may be missing at this point is to bet agressively when you know you are ahead. You mentioned that you knew you had the losing hand but called anyway to prove it, well the other side of the coin is that you know you are ahead at the turn.

Circumstances always change in poker when people catch cards and the key is to prevent that from happenning by betting harder when you know you have the advantage. That way if you're called it's costing the card catchers a lot to obtain that next card. If they don't call you win anyway.

In your example you have to assume you are ahead at the flop and should bet it ($1 in this case would be ok, although I'd have bet more). If you're behind you'd know because pocket kings, queens or aces will almost always come over the top.

At the turn you know for sure you're ahead - there's always the chance that you're behind to trips but poker is a game of probability and you have to put the trips possibility to the back of your mind. What you know is that you'll be beaten by trips so you don't want to let lots of people see the next card. I'd have bet say $3 or more on the turn which would have seen off all but the most dedicated calling station. I wouldn't have bet the river, given what came out but I would have called it down.
safesoundz
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:38 am
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Thanks for your advice webmaster
ahhyeaa
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:03 am
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I would have done a couple of things differently.

1)There was a $3.00 pot and everybody in the hand just called or checked. I would have raised it to like a $1.25 being last to act with a K,10 instead of checking.

2)I would have never bet the flop, turn and the river. This is just a general rule for me. Good players want fall for that and if your betting like you are I gurantee you will loose more hands like this one for alot more money. With this flop the the only hands you had to worry about was a higher pocket pair than 10's(wich is unlikely considering everyone checked and called) or trip 3's, 9's and (10's wich was highly unlikely)or someone chasing a straight.

I would have either checked or(more than likely)bet atleast half the pot($1.50 or more)after the flop. Betting 50c, the minimum, dosen't tell you anything and only sets you up to be raised or gives someone else a chance to catch a card for hardly nothing. I would have only bet the K on the turn if I didn't bet the flop and it would have been atleast half the pot like on the flop. On the river, I would have bet a third of the pot($3.00) assuming I bet the flop or checked If I didn't. There would be no way I would have bet the river or call a reraise in your scenario because there was a possible 4 of a kind, full house, trips, or a straight that would have won the hand.

The main difference is I would have made 1 or 2 bets that would have put alot more pressure on them to call rather than stringing 3 little bets together that didn't. In the worst case scenario, assuming I lost the hand, I would have lost $1.50 more than you and in the best case a $1.50 less.
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