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Four to a Flush - what to do?
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:24 pm
Post subject: Four to a Flush - what to do?

I've been in this situation time and again and wonder if it's the best play. Lets say I have King 7 both clubs and the flop comes Queen of clubs 2 of clubs and 5 of hearts. What are the odds of playing the flush draw and is it a wise move ?

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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:28 pm
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I normally go for the flush if I don't have to bet much. You should go for it only if you have the A because many times I got the flush but lost to another flush. Crying or Very sad
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:10 pm
Post subject: Four to the flush.

With four to the flush after the flop, you have 9-outs (18%) on the turn and another 9-outs (18%) on the river, about 32% total. Pretty goods odds particulary if your holding the ace.

The main point is, what kind of pot odds are you getting? It's not so good against one player because you pay-off is 1:1, about even against 2 players. Against 3 players and up your getting good odds to draw to your flush
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:09 pm
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Thanks Prof,

That's almost exactly what I was going to say. It all depends on how much is in the pot versus how the likely return is. With the turn card and river card to come you have a 30% chance of making the flush. If you work out what is likely to be bet (and thus the size of the pot) and figure it's the same or more than the amount you will likely stake to get to the river card then the bet makes sense.

Bear in mind that your opponents could also be going for the same flush so the strength of your flush (A high being best) counts.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:11 am
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I lost so many times to a higher flush its unbelivable. Now I only go for it if I have the A
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:30 pm
Post subject: FLUSH DRAW

The key to not getting beaten by a A-High flush draw is to determine the position and bets that the player has made. If you bet a flush draw on the flop, you can get a free card on the turn if it is has not made the flush, in most cases, the Ace would have raised before the flop, possibly signalling that they have strength.

If you don't have the ace flush draw, you most likely didn't raise before the flop. So when you're in a hand raise and see who calls to address strength, otherwise your suited cards failed in the first place.
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:08 am
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That king high flushes often are beaten by ace high flushes are not true. However, when it happens we remember it, especially since it is so annoying. if you hold to suited cards, say clubs, preflop, then the probabilty that someone else has two clubs is less than 50%. Hence, even queen or jack high flushes are often good enough. Here i assume that there is not a fourflush on the board.
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